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helenlupset 49 ( +1 | -1 )
Drug cheats in chess? I understant that there are drugs on the market that can increase your attention span, and if
this is the case then they will probably make you play better over a two hour match. Could
these drugs then be considered performance enhancing for chess players? If so has anyone
heard about any instances of this?
I may well be totally wrong as the idea came to me when I was on the toilet just now, funny the
kinds of things you think of on the toilet.
ccmcacollister 85 ( +1 | -1 )
Interesting topic I wonder if there is. Most things like caffiene that a little might help wake someone up, usually just make someone make mistakes faster. And if it helps you probably should not have been playing that day anyway.
Then there are things to increase cerebral bloodflow. And the thing there is that they are always correcting a suboptimum condition for that person. So should they be forbidden? Then leaving that person to suffer more than normal attrition of the ever progressing brain cell death that occurs in everyone?
Thus far I have been completely against any testing for any substances, as this type should not be forbidden just to play chess. And havent seen anything else that would really work imo.
far1ey 23 ( +1 | -1 )
Yes there is infact drug testing in chess. Both Topa and Kramnik will be drug tested before the Championship. So from that one could assume there are some kind of brain-enhancers in the world.
muppyman 54 ( +1 | -1 )
My view, is simply this. I see all the rules of chess as guides and parameters for honest players. Cheats will blithely disregard any rules they can, all they seek is the opportunity. Legislating against cheats is about as pointless as handing out bibles at the gates of hell. In my mind a chess cheat has all the charm of a maggot, but lacks the movement. I would welcome just one rule for cheats. Get caught, once, and you are banned for life. If a drug exists that will enable a player to cheat, then cheats will find it and use it, end of stoty. :)
kewms 36 ( +1 | -1 )
FIDE has apparently imposed drug testing in order to bring itself in line with the regimes common in other sports. This seems to be part of the (misguided, IMO) push to have chess recognized as an Olympic sport, and doesn't necessarily have anything to do with whether drugs can actually improve chess performance.

ccmcacollister 47 ( +1 | -1 )
kewms That has always been my understanding of it too. Well it would be interesting to see just what is being banned from the WC match tho~!
Beleive me, after being found to have some MS like lesions interfering with things up top, I have done some extensive research, along with physicians, as to what may or may not help that. And I havent seen anything that would compete with simply being a player in the best of health!
bunta 24 ( +1 | -1 )
I see Tournaments around my place is full of players drinking coffee and "red bull" or "v" (high caffeine content soft drinks) maybe australia takes there chess pretty seriously. But then again, thats all allowed.
zenbum 25 ( +1 | -1 )
helenlupset writes:

"...the idea came to me when I was on the toilet just now, funny the kinds of things you think of on the toilet."

I don't suppose your real name is Vladimir Kramnik, is it? ;)
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wulebgr 30 ( +1 | -1 )
Some Red Bull marketing folks showed up at a tournament this summer and offered free drinks to chess players. It was the first time I tried the stuff, and I didn't like the taste. I won the first game I played under the influence, but paid a dear price in the following round.
zenbum 53 ( +1 | -1 )
The conventional wisdom is that caffeine and nicotine provide a short-term boost in energy and mood, but impair your ability to concentrate and analyze. I'm guessing that most of the effects of Red Bull are actually from its high levels of sugar and caffeine, and very little comes from the taurine it contains.

There was a time when any sizeable gathering of chess players would inevitably lead to a thick cloud of cigarette smoke in the room. Thankfully our air is much cleaner these days.
ionadowman 3 ( +1 | -1 )
... ... Those were the days ...

ccmcacollister 86 ( +1 | -1 )
Actually for Caffeine use ... or stimulants; they might be better off using it for Study time. Its been shown using rats and a stimulant (strichnine, actually ... so PLEASE no human consumption; dont try this at Home, these were professional, trained rats. And you should not try it! okay?) that memory consolidation is better the faster and actually more traumatic the storage takes place. (Like for the Adrenalin jolt you get from some traumas ... tho if you get the endorphin overflo and go into shock, it'll defeat the purpose then too ..... ) They ran a better maze after tripping out on the S.
OF course, if you had a flatworm that knew how to play Chess ... you could cut it in half, and have TWO Chess playing flatworms, but it takes a certain talent for regeneration that you dont have. . . So there will never be two identical Kramnicks paired in a match. And there's something you can take and run with ... ?!?! }8-)
zenbum 36 ( +1 | -1 )
"...memory consolidation is better the faster and actually more traumatic the storage takes place."

Interesting theory. Would anyone like to volunteer for a scientific study, wherein you read MCO14 while I administer electric shocks? ;)

"...there will never be two identical Kramnicks paired in a match."

Of course not; Kramnik is a rat. Topalov is the worm. ;)
trond 57 ( +1 | -1 )
About possible drug cheats ... I don't believe in it. Jeremy Silman and colleagues have some thoughts on the subject. Interesting read ... doesn't seem to be any proven chess drugs around. Just another odd decision from FIDE to start drug testing. They dream about being part of the IOC (they want to be members of that corrupt, important and powerful organization), and have more interest in that than in running the chess world properly.

ccmcacollister 91 ( +1 | -1 )
trond ... nice link! Very interesting.
a FYI , if someone is suffering some memory loss ... Calcium Channel Blockers have been used to increase cerebral bloodflow, and I have seen them make a testible difference in short term memory in at least one individual. There are tests for such, a simple home test is to have someone call a number to the testee, and have them repeat it backwards. Normally someone should be able to do seven digits or so. I've seen somone increase from 5 to 9 or more on things like Calan {Verapamil} or Cardene{nicardipine} Tho I make no recommendations and am not a medical expert of any sort. Who knows, it might injure someone. On the otherhand, if you cant recall what you had for lunch ... maybe that is already being injured !?
Oh yes, the person could do 10 to 13 before developing the trouble tho. So it may be it does nothing, if there is not a problem to be solved. I cant say.
bill42164 18 ( +1 | -1 )
drug cheats in chess Regarding this issue, I believe ginko biloba is definitely a mind sharpening substance. Still not sure though if I would consider someone using it a cheat.