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| From | Message | Posted by lorddreamer nsa-hitachi.com
2/26/2006 08:00:59 Play online chess | Subject: Bishops vs Knights
Message: Which do y'all thing is better, a knight's game (closed up pawns) or bishop's open game? I mean, which is the most dangerous in any player's perspective?? I prefer bishop's, because it is simpler and I never have to worry about it suddenly switching into a closed game but...
Anyone who understands what I'm trying to say, please respond.
| Posted by ketchuplover nsa-hitachi.com
2/26/2006 11:20:26 Play online chess |
Message: Bishops are impressive! But Knights can be downright frightening!! Here's a free tip on avoiding a knight fork. Keep your pieces on opposite colored squares.
| Posted by ionadowman nsa-hitachi.com
2/26/2006 11:50:07 Play online chess | I infer...
Message: ...that you want to compare positions in which the respective minor pieces are at their best. In respect of B vs N in general, though on an open board the B is often better, I think this superiority can be and is overestimated. The N's short range is not always an issue, even on an open board. Where the B can inaugurate threats on both sides of the board, then things can get tough for the N. On the other hand, you don't often see the N outplaying a B on an open board, unless the former has the B nailed down in some way (e.g. this kind of thing: WHITE: Ke5, Nd5, Pa4, g4; BLACK: Kh7, Bd8, Pa5, g5. White to play. Open board, but an easy win for White (1.Ke6 Kg7 2.Kd7 Bf6 3.Nxf6 Kxf6 4.Kd6... White is left with the 'opposition' and a simple win.)
Consider this position: WHITE: Kd3, Ng2, Pe4, f3, g4, h5. BLACK: Ke6, Bd6, Pe5, f6, g7, h6. Sort of closed, sort of open. According to Capablanca ('Last Lectures') White has a small advantage here, but probably not a decisive one. On the other hand, were the Black g-pawn on g5 instead of g7, White would win (more accessible weakness especially at f6). In the original position, Black plays his K to f7, maintains the B on the a3-f8 diagonal and exchanges it for the N whenever the N appears on that diagonal. Note here that the N's mobility is not at issue.
In respect of the original question (if I've understood it correctly) I prefer on the whole closed positions with the N. Often the N has the greater mobility. Note though, that P structure can make a big difference! Over 30 years ago I got something like this position: WHITE: Kg1, Bb5, g5, Nf3, Pa2, b2, c2, f2, g2, h2. BLACK: Kg7, Nc6, Nf6, Pa7, b7, c7, f7, g7, h7. The B pair on an open board looked pretty good, but White's position looked heaps better after 1.Bxc6! bxc6 2. Bxf6! gxf6.
White had no problem securing the full point...
Hope this helps (and is sufficiently close to your topic!)
Cheers,
Ion ——— Chess: Wrestling with the Allgaier variation — Pragmatism is the key to this tricky and menacing variation of the King's Gambit. The Allgaier variation of the King's Gambit arises after 1 e4 e5 2 f4 exf4 3 Nf3 g5 4 h4 g4 5 Ng5. Seldom seen, but not to be underestimated. RB: I don't know this variation. It looks very tricky and very dangerous. I suppose the first thing to decide is whether to take up White's offer of the knight: 5...h6 6 Nxf7 Kxf7. The black king is terribly exposed, but is White's sacrifice sound? Can Black fight off the assault with accurate play? If I were White I'd probably follow up with 7 Bc4+ when the most sensible defence seems to be 7...d5, giving up a pawn but ...
Posted by ionadowman nsa-hitachi.com
2/26/2006 16:50:10 Play online chess | Damn...
Message: ...I left off Black's Bishop on c8 in that last position. Makes more sense with it on! Suffice to say, <N + neat pawns> vs <B + ragged pawns> looks a better bet than
<B + neat pawns> vs <N + neat pawns>... ——— French Grandmasters suspended on suspicion of cheating at Russia Chess Olympiad — The French Chess Federation (FFE) has suspended three players, two of them grandmasters, for allegedly cheating via coded text messages at the 2010 Chess Olympiad in Russia. GM Sébastien Feller took the board five gold medal and €5,000 with 6/9, including the win below against England's David Howell, where it is claimed that almost every black move is the first choice of the Firebird program. Feller's Olympiad team-mates backed the FFE, though the banned trio deny wrongdoing and have lodged appeals. According to witness evidence presented to its disciplinary committee, the FFE alleges that at critical game moments IM Cyril Marzolo fed moves from the live online games into ...
Posted by ccmcacollister nsa-hitachi.com
2/26/2006 22:42:15 Play online chess | Personally ...
Message: I have a preference for working with knights in a knight's position. Especially N+P endings. Tho they can be notoriously drawish when well played ... I've found they tend to bring out errors in play, especially from players who will make hasty moves. That is why it is one of my specialty endings. In practice they seem to almost always present good winning chances.
Not to say I don't like having the Bishop pair, as I do. But it seems more simplistic to me. Not as much fun.
}8-) ——— Three French Chess Players Punished for Using Technology to Cheat — Cheating has become more common in recent years. But a recent French case is the most sensational, and the most troubling. In January, the French Chess Federation accused three of its members, including Sebastien Feller, a 20-year-old grandmaster, of cheating during last year’s Chess Olympiad. Feller, who is ranked No. 4 among French players, played Board 5 for the national Olympiad team and won an individual gold medal for his performance. But the federation said he had help from Cyril Marzolo, an international master, who watched Feller’s games online and put the positions into a computer, which suggested moves. Marzolo relayed the suggestions to Arnaud Hauchard ...
Posted by ionadowman nsa-hitachi.com
2/27/2006 16:59:35 Play online chess | Capablanca's 'Last Lectures'...
Message: ...is worth getting hold of if you can. It has a chapter on B vs N in the endgame. It's quite short and pretty general, but there's plenty of meat and potatoes to be had, all the same. It concludes with an ending from Lasker-Marshall world championship match 1907, with a very lucid explanation of what's going on. On a fairly open board, Lasker exploits what for most would seem an insignificant edge, B for N. Capablanca had this to say about the loser of the game:"Marshall was then one of the first ranking players of the world. Moreover, he was always a good endgame player. He had, however, always a preference for the Knights instead of the Bishops, a defect amply demonstrated in this ending." The second sentence would be a high compliment, coming from Capablanca...
Cheers,
Ion ——— Chess as a Slow Dance of Seduction (movie review) — Caroline Bottaro’s tangy comic bonbon, “Queen to Play,” plucks the game of chess out of the metaphorical realm of spy thrillers and reimagines it as a fable about relationships and upward mobility. Adapted from Bertina Henrichs’s novel “The Chess Player,” this slight but captivating movie (Ms. Bottaro’s directorial debut) compares the strategies of chess to the erotic maneuvers in a flirtatious pas de deux that may be more satisfying than actual sex. At the same time, a woman’s winning the game symbolizes female empowerment in a man’s world and ascent from working-class drudgery to the bourgeoisie. Hélène (Sandrine Bonnaire), the movie’s sly, middle-aged Cinderella, is ...
Posted by lorddreamer nsa-hitachi.com
3/07/2006 15:42:14 Play online chess |
Message: I have found that knights are for those who want a bit of excitement, cuz they have so many moves all the time, and can end up in such strange spots, they are more exciting. Bishops normally show a clear idea, but can be devestating. In the end, bishops are so much safer, because they attack a clear spot and its not hard to see a slatemate position, knights on the other hand can be very confusing. ——— Chess: Who wants to argue with Bobby Fischer? — Fischer's famous attack on the King's Gambit is interesting – but a long way from a refutation. In 1961 Bobby Fischer wrote "A Bust to the King's Gambit", a now famous article in which he set out, in typically uncompromising language, to do exactly as the title says. His idea was to play 1 e4 e5 2 f4 exf4 3 Nf3 d6, avoiding the Kieseritsky variation (3...g5 4 h4 g4 5 Ne5) which Spassky had used to defeat him a couple of years before. The diagram position arises after 3...d6 4 d4 g5 5 h4 g4 6 Ng1 Bh6 and here Fischer claims that White has "no compensation" for the pawn. RB: Who wants to argue with Bobby Fischer? And you can see his point. With White's pieces all on ...
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