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| From | Message | Posted by houseofcook nsa-hitachi.com
6/16/2008 10:29:18 Play online chess | Subject: French Defence, What do you play as White.
Message: Hi there,
A question for players who play the French defence as their main opening.
What openings would you play as white ? I know this is dependant on the response by black. Is it a similar setup to the French, or totally unrelated?
What was your thinking in choosing these setups ?
| Posted by ionadowman nsa-hitachi.com
6/16/2008 13:38:35 Play online chess | My own favorite...
Message: ... for White is 3.Nc3, hoping for the Winawer (an opening I like as Black as well, which says something about this line): 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5. 3.Nc3 and if Black plays 3...Bb4 we have the Winawer line, leading to a good fighting game. Black can try instead the exchange on e4 (I have a consultation game going on Gameknot at the moment in which the opponents have played this). Or he can try 3...Nf6, an OK line, but one I dislike as Black.
Playing the French OTB almost exclusively for several years, I found four opponents out of five favoured the Tarrasch, 3.Nd2, keeping the c-pawn free to advance. Not particularly committal, it's not easy for Black to get a hold on the ensuing game. I favoured the Guimard (3...Nc6) with considerable success, but blocking Black's c-pawn isn't everyone's cup o' java.
Finally, there's the more committal Advance Variation: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.e5 (3...c5 4.c3 Nc6 5.Nf3 Qb6 are often played. White can then continue with the "standard" 6.Be2, or try the more ambitious 6.Bd3, possibly heading for the violent Milner-Barry Gambit: 6...cxd4 7.cxd4 Bd7 8.0-0 Nxd4 9.Nxd4 Qxd4 10.Nc3 Qxe5 11.Re1 ... An example is the game kikoursus vs ionadowman played in 2005.
There may be other lines (I gather 1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 is sometimes played), but these are the main ones.
Cheers,
Ion
| Posted by kansaspatzer nsa-hitachi.com
6/16/2008 14:48:14 Play online chess |
Message: I think he's asking what openings French players play when they're White. But FWIW, I play 2.Qe2 when faced with the French. ——— Chess: Elite Players Struggle After Taking Break From Play — Tournament play after a long layoff is not easy, even for elite chess players. They can forget what they know about openings or fail to stay up to date. A larger obstacle is the crucible of competition: the pressure can be intense, and the mind and body have to be reconditioned. Gata Kamsky learned that lesson in 2004 when he returned after an eight-year layoff and his world ranking fell. Several top chess players have followed a similar course in recent months. One of them, Yasser Seirawan, 51, a former United States chess champion, had not competed on an elite level for eight years until he entered the national chess championship in April. He struggled then, but his results have improved. At ...
Posted by chessisvanity nsa-hitachi.com
6/16/2008 22:34:55 Play online chess | pffft...
Message: Throw them off....I play the exchange.
Why would I sit there and let a guy play his favorite opening?
If i play 1.e4 and he plays 1...e6 I know he knows the French.
So i play 2.d4...d5
3.exd5!
Yes some say this might be drawish....but unless he is 2200 or better then i have the advantage.
The same goes with the caro-kann. The exchange variation!! ——— On Chess: Being hunter better than being prey — Aggressiveness pays in chess and other games, as well as in life itself. Bobby Fischer’s relentless will to win and engage the opponent until only naked kings were left is legendary. Few opponents were able to keep from flinching or ultimately collapsing under the pressure of his fierce and predatory intent. Mikhail Tal attacked, attacked and attacked. Playing him was like facing a brigade of octopuses, each of whose tentacles were firing a Gatling gun. Of course, he wasn’t merely aggressive. He also played with extraordinary artfulness and creative flair. In his bible for athletes and coaches, Coaching the Mental Game, sports psychologist Harvey Dorfman recalls that his father had advised him at ...
Posted by houseofcook nsa-hitachi.com
6/16/2008 23:27:35 Play online chess | French Defence,what do you play as white.
Message: Thanks for the replies.
It was interesting to find out what French players would play against the French.
I appreciate the in depth reply from ionadowman, but I did mean what does a French player play as white, what would be your initial moves, would you start with 1.d4 or 1. e4 or something else ? ——— The 2011 SPICE Cup — This week I am in Lubbock, Texas, for the annual SPICE Cup Chess Tournament. SPICE stands for Susan Polgar Institute for Chess Excellence, an organization devoted to the promotion of chess education and outreach headquartered at Texas Tech University. Susan is a former Women's World Chess Champion who works alongside her husband, Paul Truong, (a strong chess master in his own right) to organize all sorts of tournaments, chess classes and chess camps. The SPICE Cup is, by far, the strongest chess tournament they organize, and it is one of the strongest tournaments held annually in the U.S. each year. This year there are three different sections, each with several grandmasters. The strongest ...
Posted by chessisvanity nsa-hitachi.com
6/16/2008 23:31:54 Play online chess | ...
Message: well duh...
A french player will have an advantage playing against the French so I imagine they play 1.e4 as white. ——— Chess: the bishop sacrifice — RB: My second nomination for chess book of the year is Sacking the Citadel: The History, Theory and Practice of the Classic Bishop Sacrifice by Jon Edwards (Russell Enterprises). It always looks so tempting: the enemy knight chased from the key defensive square at f6, our bishop unobstructed on the b1-h7 diagonal, knight on f3, queen on its starting square ready to race to h5 or d3. Most of us have tried Bxh7+ at one time or other, and most of us probably have experience of messing it up. When is the sacrifice sound? What forces does White need to press home the attack? What defensive resources can Black conjure up to frustrate us? These are the questions Edwards addresses. Divided into ...
Posted by ionadowman nsa-hitachi.com
6/17/2008 00:44:42 Play online chess | Sorry -
Message: - Misunderstood you to mean what would I play if faced with the French.
But you can infer that I was not afraid to face the French myself, so would open 1.e4 at least sometimes.
But my stock opening as White, for even longer than the French was when I was Black, was the English Opening: 1.c4. 1.e4 was more of a "change" opening, just for the sake of variety. Some "English" players tend to stick with "pure" English positions, but I was more than happy to transpose into King's Indian Defences (from White's perspective), Sicilians Reversed or (surprisingly frequently) Maroczy Binds. Quite a few French defence player like the King's Indian Attack as White, but I never had much luck with it...
Cheers,
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Posted by lighttotheright nsa-hitachi.com
6/18/2008 12:53:52 Play online chess |
Message: Ion,
You and I apparently like the same openings with the same variations! That's spooky. Maybe we know some things others don't.:-O
| Posted by ionadowman nsa-hitachi.com
6/18/2008 13:43:38 Play online chess | ...
Message: Ken -
I wonder what they can be?? :-/
Maybe we just like lines with a bit of fight in them?
(I have to admit, though, my record with the English on GK hasn't been all that wonderful...)
Cheers,
Ion
| Posted by premium_steve nsa-hitachi.com
7/07/2008 12:25:10 Play online chess |
Message: i'm a french player now (i used to play the alekhine and scandinavian), and i most often prefer 1.e4.
it's true that as black i like to play fairly solidly with 1.e6 because i have found that most lines give me a position i am comfortable with - without much risk of being a lot worse out of the opening.
as white i feel i can take more liberties in an open style game and look for some kind of attack. (that being said, i still fear open sicilians as white!)
sometimes i'll give 1.d4 or 1.f4 a try, or maybe 1.g3.
| Posted by markb56 nsa-hitachi.com
7/13/2008 15:44:40 Play online chess | Maginot Line / Hitler Gambit
Message: If I were playing white against the French I would try to try to get black to play the Maginot Line after which it's an easy matter to maneuver your pieces around the flank. However, white must be careful and avoid the now refuted Hitler Gambit, because if white gets too bold he will find himself fighting on two different fronts.
| Posted by kansaspatzer nsa-hitachi.com
7/13/2008 17:19:33 Play online chess |
Message: I just recently switched to the French and I normally play e4, although there are certain opponents I'll play d4 against. I must admit I'm not all that booked up against the Sicilian but playing lots of Gameknot games using the opening DB helps when you get OTB, IMO.
| Posted by wulebgr nsa-hitachi.com
7/25/2008 12:03:17 Play online chess | As I French player,
Message: I understand the futility of 1.e4. I play 1.g3, 1.d4, 1.c4, and 1.Nf3, reserving 1.e4 for weaker opponents and blitz.
| Posted by kansaspatzer nsa-hitachi.com
7/26/2008 22:27:47 Play online chess |
Message: So what is the Hitler gambit? The only Google hit for it is this page...
| Posted by jstevens1 nsa-hitachi.com
7/26/2008 23:49:54 Play online chess | Expert Draw!
Message: Hi everyone! Just to let you know that there is a game on the Public Annotations where I had the black pieces and played against The Tarrasch. The game is called Expert Draw because at the time my opponent was 832 points north of my rating. Despite a 2 pawn deficit I managed to draw it. This was a big result because it is still the only time I have managed to draw against an Expert. Ionadowman has already commented on the game but if any of you have anything to add please feel free to do so.
Hope you have all enjoyed your weekend.
Cheers and bye for now.
Joanne
| Posted by savage4731 nsa-hitachi.com
7/29/2008 01:22:30 Play online chess | Kansaspatzer
Message: That's because the correct way for black to play is just to resign as soon as possible.
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