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Posted by tjaalzchess nsa-hitachi.com
10/26/2008 07:15:13 play online chess | Subject: Endgame K + Q vs K+ Q + N
Message: First of all I am not asking for any help for one of my endgame, just some clarification.
In a game I am playing I have a Queen and a Knight left, against a Queen only. ( there are however still some pawns, but it doesn't really matter because my question is in general )
Can a game K+ Q + N vs K + Q be won? Or is this always a draw? Or only win if you are a very good player?
Thanks in advance
tjaalz
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Posted by gt2win nsa-hitachi.com
10/26/2008 08:54:39 play online chess | K + Q vs K+ Q + N
Message: Should be a draw if there are no pawns left on the board. If the person with the N has any left though, they should win.
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Posted by andy94 nsa-hitachi.com
10/26/2008 13:42:21 play online chess |
Message: Well tjaalz, I watched endgames like those and it's 99% draw, even if the opponent who hasn't the N has got a pawn and the other player has not it. Anyway, you don't win that endgame if you are a very good player, but if your opponent is a very bad one!
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Posted by pavel76 nsa-hitachi.com
10/27/2008 05:03:13 play online chess |
Message: I think gt2win opinion is the correct answer
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Posted by ionadowman nsa-hitachi.com
10/27/2008 11:44:57 play online chess | In general ...
Message: ... one would expect the KQN vs KQ to be no more than a draw. But there will probably be some special positions in which the stronger side can win. Such cases will crop up if the weaker side's mobility is for some reason limited.
The following is a simple example:
b
Black wins by
1...Ne4+
[A] 2.Ke1 Qf2#
[B] 2.Ke2 Nc3+ etc
[C] 2.Kd3 Nf2+ etc.
The position of the Black king is not particularly significant in this diagram, by the way.
Cheers,
Ion
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