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Posted by sabrina26_ita
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2/11/2004
14:21:14

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Subject: Women's Chess Team* - Page 9

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New Messages here, to make discussion about the team, about the games, about you (Team Mates)...
We are a large Team, 39 chess players, i want to report all names:
chessgirl 2. patkhoo 3. sabrina26_ita 4. cristina 5. daniela 6. sunflower 7. yinsan 8. pebbles 9. knight1 10. alaunila
11. martyna 12. miss_m 13. fiery 14. mistress-jade 15. yellow 16. westernaddition
17. trollhunter 18. empress 19. alhena 20. nardi 21. monikform 22. chanelle 23. suffolkgal 24. criss_cross_it 25. kosteniuk 26. ariaspanzon 27. hikki 28. raludia 29. blitztron 30. sayanora 31. sallymander 32. melania 33. keti 34. mutlied 35.zormaster
36. galois37. serenfach 38. ddrose 39. rootie1974
...someone back, someone new, someone not on line since most time, but anyway a Team, with passion for chess game...actually at the 7th place on the team table for score, the rating is too much variable for all teams.... Thanks to all to believe a group, also if is a virtual chess group, but made from real people....
Enjoy yourself to do relaxing chess games (and to beat men!! ;))



Posted by hikki
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2/11/2004
20:43:05

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Why page 9 ?

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hi everyone. (>_<) so do we share gameplay discussion here or just team chat?
like can we comments on a game that anyone think is interesting? i think i can learn a lot from those! better to learn from others mistakes than yourself!!


Posted by westernaddition
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2/14/2004
11:30:51

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Hello Teammates

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Just want to say hello to all my new team mates, I am in the company of really great players. I hope to learn alot and get better. Amanda

Posted by sabrina26_ita
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2/15/2004
12:36:07

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Thanks

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a lot for the messages.... Hikky there was 9 page before this one.....:)

Posted by westernaddition
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2/21/2004
13:31:12

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Website

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HI Sabrina,
How is the new website going?? How are you doing, ok? amanda


Posted by laura_eve
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3/03/2004
11:17:54

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hello

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hi, how do i join a team?

Posted by sabrina26_ita
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3/06/2004
11:34:04

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welcome

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Laura, and good luck......

Posted by zormaster
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3/15/2004
23:16:35

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Explain

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Hi Sabrina and other team mates :>)

Can you explain to us how the new gameknot team rating works and which place are we taken now? Maybe we have to challenge all the top teams and play them with our strongest payers to reach a higher level?

Ciao for now. .....btw: warm welcome to the new team members and i wish you many lucky and happy years with us!

Natacha


Posted by pebbles
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3/16/2004
10:10:21

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New rating of teams

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The new team ranking is based on the Elo system, whereby the difference between *team* ratings is used in the calculation, not the player's individual ratings. In my opinion, this way of ranking teams is quite meaningless.

I have looked at the past results of some of the highest ranked teams, and have found that on average the pairings of their matches are highly favorable to them; their win expectancy is therefore also very high and that is the only reason why they are at the top. It is not so that they perform better than could be expected.

For any team, whatever the strength of its players, there are two ways to achieve a high rank:

1. to play highly favorable matches (i.e. matches where the ratings of the opposing players are substantially lower than the ratings of the own players) most of the time, and to never play unfavorable matches.

2. to only play higher ranked teams; in such matches, winning 50% of the games in fairly paired matches, guarantees an increase in the team rating.

Besides these two methods, there exist certain cheating methods, but they aren't as effective as the (legitimate) above described. For instance, sandbagging is such a method. Or take the example of a captain of a certain team (of which you, zormaster, have been a member some time ago ;-) ), who simply dropped the old account and started with a new account and a much lower Elo... Such 'dirty' tricks aren't very effective in the long run, though.

I also welcome the new players in our team; it's been a while since I last did that.


Posted by zormaster
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3/16/2004
10:35:47

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not true

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I never ever dropped the old account, i was and be still the zormaster as i was/ be and circumstance made me losing a lot of games. not nice to say. not nice at all

Posted by pebbles
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3/19/2004
20:25:09

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zormaster

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My remark was not about you. I wrote:

"... a captain of a certain team (of which you, zormaster, have been a member some time ago ;-) ),...".

So it was about a captain of a certain Dutch team, and not at all about you.


Posted by zormaster
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3/20/2004
02:32:41

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pebbles

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Pity this major mis understanding. I was very confused but can see now your topic wasn't me :>)

Take care and a nice weekend.

Natacha


Posted by westernaddition
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3/21/2004
10:21:45

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Chessgirl

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Hello Mr. Chang,
I was deeply saddened to read your message. I am truly sorry for the loss your family has had. I am new to the team and did not have the opportunity to get to know Christina, however I know that she was beautiful girl and great chess player. It is terrible to lose someone so young, I have lost my sister who was that age too. We will remember them forever, but thank God that they were here for a short time at least.
We will miss Christina!
Amanda


Posted by daniela
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3/21/2004
10:23:29

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Oh no, chessgirl

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I donīt know if all of you have received this message. Itīs a very hard blow:

Private message from chessgirl:
Hello, team!
Dear members of the Women's Chess Team.
I am Joseph Chang, father of your team member, Christina Chang.
I sadly announce the passing awang of my beloved daughter, Christina Chang on the 18th March 2004 due to a complication in her heart. She has always fondly spoken about your great team and how happy she was to be a part of it. My wife and I, would like to thank all of you for the hospitality extended to my late daughter.
We have lost a very much loved daughter and I believe your team and the chess world have lost a young, bubbly and great woman chess player.
Thank you and God Bless.


Posted by zormaster
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3/21/2004
12:04:45

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Sad news

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Sad news in my mailbox, what to say? The past of Christina Chang.
I hope that she find peace in heaven and i am sure God will take care of her.

We shall think of her as a fine person and a great member of our team.

God bless and may give her parents all the power they need.

Natacha


Posted by serenfach
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3/21/2004
12:56:57

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Christina Chang

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I would like to join with all my other team members in expressing my deepest sympathy to Mr Chang and his family over the loss of his dear daughter. I know I have never posted on this board before, but I felt I had to express my deep regret at the loss of a great team member and a beautiful young girl.

There will be another star in heaven tonight. God bless you all.


Posted by mateintwo
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3/21/2004
14:03:42

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I'm very sorry .-(

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Posted by sabrina26_ita
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3/21/2004
14:11:45

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I CANT BELIEVE IT!

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NOT EXIST APPROPRIATE WORDS....ONLY THE TEARS CAN TALK....
a little diamond...
in the sky..


Posted by sabrina26_ita
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3/21/2004
14:19:29

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I decided to suspend to give the team games for a little time, for rispect, i hope, and i think, u will agree..

Posted by indianking
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3/21/2004
15:13:07

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unbelievable...

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to hear this sad news! What a loss for this family. I would like to speak out my sympathy to them and i hope this chess-community here will do the same...., as it did earlier by losing other players.

Posted by pebbles
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3/21/2004
18:18:32

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My condolences to the family of Christina Chang.


Posted by sly_lonewolf
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3/21/2004
18:35:23

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.

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...Condolences...

Posted by criss_cross_it
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3/21/2004
21:40:41

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:-(

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I cannot believe. Is not possible. Why... why? I read only now the notice because i connect rarely to GK. Christina was a wonderful player and a nice girl. Thanks Christina for all you made for us and for all people around you. My condolences to the family.
Cristina


Posted by coyotefan
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3/22/2004
05:44:26

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OUCH!

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Makes all our petty little problems seem so small. RIP Chessgirl!!

Posted by gothicgirl
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3/22/2004
12:47:16

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Condolences...

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my condolences to the team as well as to the family of Christina Chang.

Julia


Posted by mutlied
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3/22/2004
13:03:28

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Very saddened to hear this news. My condolences to Christina's family and friends.


Isobel


Posted by shahab22e
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3/22/2004
13:34:09

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I will always remember you...

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oh dear christina , have you really gone?
but you told me you would have a minor surgery...
ennalellah va enna elaihe rajeoon......(we are all from you(god) and we return to you....)


Posted by john_wr
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3/22/2004
16:38:01

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Condolences

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I had just challenged chessgirl (Christina) to a game and was deeply saddened to hear she had passed away. I have 2 Daughters of my own and my thoughts and best wishes are with Mr and Mrs Chang.


John


Posted by invincible1
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3/22/2004
23:50:00

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.

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I haven't had the pleasure of knowing Christina. But she was certainly a beautiful girl, excellent chess player and above all a wonderful person. Please pass on my heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family members. May her soul rest in peace. I am unbelievably saddened to hear the news...


Posted by spymaster
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3/23/2004
00:33:20

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Team SEA Lions

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on behalf of the SEA Lions team, i send our heartfelt condolences to Christina Chang's family and teammates.

this is a trying period for both family and friends of chessgirl

May she rest in peace.

")


Posted by hari
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3/23/2004
02:07:17

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My condolences to Christina's family and friends.

Posted by ccmcacollister
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3/23/2004
02:08:51

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Chessgirl

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I would also like to express my sympathies to the family of Christina Chang, and offer my condolences to you her teamates. She was a lovely young lady and good Chessplayer.

Sincerely, Craig Collister


Posted by alhena
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3/23/2004
04:37:10

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For Cristina

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I want to express to the family of Cristina my condolencias. He was very pleasing my to have it like teammate.

Posted by indianking
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3/23/2004
14:41:39

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its hard to believe

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that the end of living can be so near by before you know it! I also have two daughters and i am happy with there healthness. But 14 years old and then shes leaving....Cristina, may you rest in peace!!

Posted by mormel12
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3/24/2004
14:01:37

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my condolences

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to family and friends

Posted by manhattan
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4/02/2004
01:02:31

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hey!

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are girls scared from NY Lover boys?

ya are declining all our challenges.

have fun!
Janis


Posted by sabrina26_ita
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4/02/2004
06:48:30

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no for the moment pls

Posted by zormaster
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4/02/2004
09:27:13

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Back to 'normal'

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Girls;

We had/ have a rough time by the paste away from one of our team members but life- pity enough- goes on. We never forget her but i know Christina would have to carry on our daily lifes and including chess. No better way to honor her with a great victory in her name! Challenge one of the best captain and we shall fight as hell.


Posted by sabrina26_ita
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4/04/2004
01:45:34

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the team

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i think that maybe we can start again the competions... raise up again the team...


Posted by criss_cross_it
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4/23/2004
10:36:57

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Sorry

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I have to ask sorry to everyone for my TO losses :-(
Sorry sorry and sorry
Cristina


Posted by zormaster
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4/23/2004
12:37:35

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sorry

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Why sorry? We aren't machines are we? ;>) We know you have playing well but we all losing and winning games, so don't worry :>)

Posted by daniela
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4/24/2004
14:17:49

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You are totally right,

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"zormaster". Cristina, never mind, Iīve also been losing some games lately. Sad, but unavoidable. The point is that without chessgirl ... and with some more of out best players sort of disconnected, things are going to be more difficult, right?
Sabrina, when do you think the new website will be ready?


Posted by zormaster
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4/26/2004
14:44:13

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RUMBLE

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Let's kick some arrogance butt from higher ranked teams! I am hungry to beat these guys :>)

Posted by sabrina26_ita
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4/28/2004
01:39:30

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OK!!

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it's real difficult to find team games, everyday i find challenges...dont worry....
i'm editing the website, there are new team mates.... i think at the end of the week........ hugs to all team


Posted by manhattan
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4/28/2004
03:35:18

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scared

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You say you wanna play, but as we try to challenge you decline us!!!!

Janis

captain of New York Lovers


Posted by elodie
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4/29/2004
05:02:19

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manhattan...

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Maybe she doesn't like you, Janis! :o)

Just kidding...

Albert


Posted by zormaster
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4/29/2004
06:44:33

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understanding

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I understand her ofcourse :>) You guys are to simple for us, lol

Posted by sabrina26_ita
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4/29/2004
06:49:15

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i

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want to be free to challenge the team that i want......
or not?


Posted by pebbles
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4/29/2004
09:14:29

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elodie

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Die vlieger gaat niet op!
ROTFLOL


Posted by ajb1955
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4/29/2004
18:35:06

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simple

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zormaster...simple?....maybe, but we enjoy a good team challenge especially against a team that has a sense of humor.... lol and sabrina, it's free! lol

Posted by sabrina26_ita
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4/30/2004
09:05:40

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forum

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closed, another page will be open

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